Introducing Polisy
Your gateway to integrating everything and anything with your ISY with a single button click! Such awesome things as Audio Video controllers, Tesla, Ring, Ecobee, Roomba, Weather Stations, Rachio, LiFX, SolarEdge, ….
Polisy is your plug & play Polyglot in a beautiful shiny box. Your ISY’s sidekick now and its destiny in the future.
Polisy is powerful. It boasts 1Ghz Quad Core AMD CPU, 4GB RAM, 32GB 3D NAND SSD, 3 x 1 GB Ethernet ports, and extensive I/O features. Its prowess is assured by a lean fine-tuned version of BSD Unix. Its security hardened by TPM boot. Its reliability, viability, and support is guaranteed by the same team that brought you the ISY.
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or those not familiar with Polyglot, it’s our revolutionary framework that allows integration of anything into ISY with a single button click. These things show up just like any other device, can be included in scenes, and available in programs.
For instance, our Tesla Poly enables you to use battery range, state of charge, and your own preferencees – such as price of electricity – as conditions to automate when to charge/discharge. Or use an INSTEON / Z-Wave motion sensor on the ouside of your home as a trigger for your Tesla to honk the horn and flash the lights to thwart off intruders.
Polisy not only comes with Polyglot already configured and running, but also it automatically finds and commissions your ISY when attached. From thereon, you command/control both Polisy and ISY through one interface.Â
Native support for 3G/4G modems gives you the ability to go off the grid. Literally! And, if you are one of those maximum-connectivity types, get the Polisy PRO model which comes standard with Dual Band WiFi and Bluetooth (4.0).
And, by the way, Polisy comes with 2 year subscription to ISY Portal free of charge.
Lest we forget, if you are a geek like us, you would want to know that we value your geekiness so much so that:
- If you have already published a Poly in our Polyglot store, you get Polisy for free
- Verified developers get 50% discounts on all our products, modules, and bundles including the preorder for Polisy
- You get Polisy in your hands before the general availability
If you have not signed up as a developer yet, well, what are you waiting for?Â
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Let Polisy take your home to where no home has gone before!
June 12, 2019 @ 1:59 pm
Can this be loaded with NodeLink by UD as a default, or easily by customers (as in the BSD Unix OS is accessible to end users)?
June 12, 2019 @ 2:07 pm
Hi Matt,
Yes, almost all of the BSD Unix OS (with some security restrictions on TPM) are accessible to everyone. The question is whether or not io_guy feels like migrating Nodelink and making it as a BSD package that can be maintained/complied/downloaded/updated/upgraded automatically. We have our own BSD package repository and we do mass compilation of packages to ensure compatibility.
June 12, 2019 @ 3:37 pm
Does it support Insteon out of the box ? I don’t see it in the polyglot repository
June 12, 2019 @ 3:59 pm
Hi Jarod, no.
June 12, 2019 @ 3:59 pm
Can the PRO WiFi be used to create a separate network for special devices, or is it “just” to connect the existing network
June 12, 2019 @ 4:21 pm
Hi Christian,
You can do that (using Unix commands) but that’s not something that we have planned to be done through the interface.
June 12, 2019 @ 8:44 pm
Will Brultech support be easily available? What kind of mass storage does it have? Is it user-expandible? Thanks, Michael.
June 12, 2019 @ 9:23 pm
I have a dedicated Raspberry pi running polyglot. I am curious what this may provide to a user like me?
June 12, 2019 @ 10:24 pm
Hi Chris,
Above and beyond full support, package managemment, auto upgrade/update, and managing all compatibilities, Polisy is designed to be fully integrated with ISY (you’ll use the same interface to talk with both). Furthermore, over time, functions in ISY will be moved over to Polisy such that Polisy will become the next gen ISY. Also, Polisy has a 32GB NAND SSD rather than depending on an SD Card.
June 12, 2019 @ 10:27 pm
Hi Les,
If you mean whether or not there will be a Poly for Brultech, it depends on Brultech and the developers. Mass storage is top of the line 32GB 3D NAND SSD. It’s quick and most reliable.
June 13, 2019 @ 3:35 am
When I receive my Polisy, how do I transfer my Nodeservers from the RPi to the Polisy ?
June 13, 2019 @ 8:08 am
Hi Seno, we should have a migration utility.
June 13, 2019 @ 8:16 am
Hi Michel,
Will this take the place of a netgear or dlink router? I have an ISY 994i that I use to control Insteon devices and integrate with an Elk security system so will the ISY eventually become obsolete and unsupported by UD?
June 13, 2019 @ 8:20 am
Hi John,
Although you can make Polisy into a router but I do not recommend it because we didn’t optimmize the OS for routing (such as packet filtering, etc.). Polisy will replace ISY in the future. This said, ISY994 will be supported regardless of Polisy.
June 13, 2019 @ 11:37 am
Michel,
Hi, this is Clarence Martin and it’s been a while since we talked. Are you eventually moving to this forum for all of the UDI information?
I have been trying to keep up with all of the changes in technology that UDI has been coming up with, but I must say that I am really at a loss with all of these changes. Is there a place that I can try to catch up with these changes? Polygot, Polisy, and all.
I am still the integrator of record for the Gas Company site but there have no changes there, so far. Where does the new Polisy fit there? Should I be planning to swap out the ISY for a Polisy in the near future?
Can someone eplain in simple English in detail how the Polisy works, even for Home automation purposes too?
June 13, 2019 @ 11:46 am
Hi Clarence,
This is the comment section for this news article. Reviewing our website should tell you about our overall goals/strategies/products.
Utilities and OpenADR do not change any time soon. You don’t need Polisy for those. ISY994 is fine.
June 13, 2019 @ 12:13 pm
What can the pro do with the wifi/bt compared to the regular?
June 13, 2019 @ 12:28 pm
Hi K Chinn,
With WiFi, you can connect to your network using WiFi rather than using the Ethernet cable. With Bluetooth, you there might be Polys that use Bluetooth (such as the Presence Poly).
June 13, 2019 @ 3:31 pm
I don’t think nodelink needs to be migrated to BSD. I’ve used the exact same .net nodelink executable on Windows and Raspbian. It’s whether or not Mono can be installed on on PolIsy with the same options nodelink needs for raspbian, which should be possible.
June 15, 2019 @ 8:34 am
Isn’t there a cloud Polyglot, too? Do I need one or both? Would be great to start to see some product lineup matrix.
Also, it’s really unclear to me if I should upgrade my ISY994i to 5.x. It’s still marked Beta and from what I read, it looks like the upgrade path isn’t solid. I want to upgrade but I don’t want to futz with it for weeks after the upgrade.
June 16, 2019 @ 5:37 pm
Hi Roopesh,
1. Yes, there’s a cloud Polyglot too. It’s for those things/services that are cloud based such as Tesla, Ring, Ecobee, etc.
2. This post is for Polisy. For ISY release information please either contact our support team or post your questions on the forum
June 17, 2019 @ 10:09 am
Michael – I’m confused. Does that mean I would need Polyglot Cloud (for services that are cloud based) AND Polisy (for non-cloud based services – and what are those?)?
June 17, 2019 @ 10:15 am
Roopesh, no, it means that for those who do not want to deal with port forwarding etc., they can use Polyglot Cloud. For those that do not mind, they can use Polisy. Then there are certain things that are LOCAL to your network (such as GPIO pins or presence) in which case you cannot do anything to them from Polyglot Cloud. So, in short, you have the best of both worlds. If all you have are cloud based things, then you do not need Polisy. If all you have are local things, then you need Polisy. If you have a mixture, you get both. If you have none, then you need neither.
June 18, 2019 @ 5:24 pm
So am I right in understanding the only hardware difference between the Polisy and the Polisy Pro is Wifi and Bluetooth support? (Same CPU, Memory, etc?)
With regards to the Bluetooth capability … will there be an option to “add” Bluetooth support to the non-Pro? (presumably with a $5 USB adapter from Amazon?) … or will I have to spend the extra $50 on the off-chance that I need Bluetooth support at a later date?
I’m not sure I really understand the need for WiFi since the ISY doesn’t support WiFi, and I would assume that most people would be connecting the Polisy into their home network next to the ISY … (I guess you could “hack” the polisy to act as a relay for an ISY as well)
@shley
June 19, 2019 @ 7:19 am
Hi @shely,
1. Yes, the only difference is WiFi and Bluetooth
2. Yes, there will be. As long as we have the driver for it (Atheros/Qualcomm). We have not tested the $5 USB dongles from Amazon
3. That’s why it’s an option
With kind regards,
Michel
June 22, 2019 @ 9:49 am
Hi Michel,
I am speaking with one of my customers to plan his home system. I saw your comment above, [Quote] “Furthermore, over time, functions in ISY will be moved over to Polisy such that Polisy will become the next gen ISY.”
Given that I don’t know what “over time” means, should I recommend that he get a Polisy under the current discount or will he also need to get an ISY 994? His installation is scheduled for November, 2019.
Regards,
Greg
June 23, 2019 @ 11:06 am
Hi Greg,
By November, he would still need an ISY in addition to Polisy. If he’s going to use node servers, it’s best to get Polisy under the discount now. If not, then there’s really no rush.
With kind regards,
Michel
July 10, 2019 @ 8:12 am
Given 3x ethernet ports, can we hook the ISY up to one and use the wireless in Polisy to enable both to work from remote locations?
July 10, 2019 @ 8:47 am
Hi Rob,
The goals is to have Polisy act as a proxy for ISY. So, yes, it should be possible.
With kind regards,
Michel
July 10, 2019 @ 9:16 am
So to use insteion would you just need to plug in a power line modem And install a plug-in. Will plug-in be free? I have a isy994i now. And what’s ETA on insteion. Thanks
July 10, 2019 @ 9:22 am
Hi Andrew,
That’s the plan for when Polisy replaces ISY. We have no ETA for this yet. The first phase is as described in the article.
July 10, 2019 @ 12:09 pm
Thanks, I’ll give it a shot! Btw, if possible, BT 5.0 would be an improvement. I have radon monitors from airthings, and their new wave plus models require BT5.
July 10, 2019 @ 12:21 pm
Hi Rob, the beauty of Polisy is that it has mPCIe slots one of which is used for BT/WiFi. So, of course if we can find a BT5/WiFi module for which we have the driver, then it’s a no brainer to upgrade (even yourself).
July 10, 2019 @ 3:07 pm
Not sure if this is for me. I don’t have any of the products you mention….. I control Insteon devices in my home, that’s about it. Should I buy this thing now to save money. I love gadgets.
our gateway to integrating everything and anything with your ISY with a single button click! Such awesome things as Audio Video controllers, Tesla, Ring, Ecobee, Roomba, Weather Stations, Rachio, LiFX, SolarEdge, ….
July 10, 2019 @ 3:16 pm
Hi Philip,
That’s not a good question to ask us! Of course we want you to buy one even if you never use it. This said, however, if you are not planning on integrating with anything else in the near future, well, ….
With kind regards,
Michel
July 12, 2019 @ 8:16 am
Hi Michel, as usual you guys are outstanding!
The one thing that has held me back from polyglot is the upgrade to 5.xx on the ISY. Users continue to talk about the “task” of this process, including zwave upgrades /issues, etc. This looks to be a many hour exercise.
What is the current outlook for v5? Will this migration issues become fixes / automated? Will this be out of beta when Polisy becomes available?
thanks Doug
July 12, 2019 @ 9:35 am
Hi Doug,
Thank you!
Perhaps you are confusing Z-Wave 500 board upgrade with migration from 4.x to 5.x?
We are waiting to finalize our Z-Wave certification to release 5.0x. In short, 5.0.15A, is pretty much rock solid.
With kind regards,
Michel
July 13, 2019 @ 4:44 am
can multiple ISY’s be added to it?
July 14, 2019 @ 8:27 am
Hi Sundeep,
I don’t understand the question. Polisy can be a node server to multiple ISYs.
With kind regards,
Michel
July 22, 2019 @ 8:59 am
I appear to have lost my email regarding preording Polisy at a discount (I am long-time ISY owner). Have I missed the discount window?
July 22, 2019 @ 9:02 am
Hi Tim,
Unfortunately so. It was a limited time offer. So sorry.
With kind regards,
Michel
August 1, 2019 @ 3:57 pm
With it available to the public in October… those that pre-order will get it…?
August 1, 2019 @ 3:59 pm
@Russel, not sure I understand the question.
August 1, 2019 @ 6:22 pm
Will those that pre-order get the Polisy sooner than the general public? If so, when?
August 1, 2019 @ 6:43 pm
It depends on the stock level (currently we have run out of everything in the first batch). Pre-order came with a huge discount.
August 1, 2019 @ 6:53 pm
I was part of the pre-order, purchase on June 12th. Where do I stand in getting one?
August 1, 2019 @ 10:28 pm
@Russel,
Every pre-order shall be fulfilled.
With kind regards,
Michel
August 21, 2019 @ 9:12 am
When do pre-orders ship? I know it was published somewhere but I can’t find it. (probably skimmed right by it)
Thanks,
– Dave
August 21, 2019 @ 9:32 am
Hi Dave,
Mid October.
With kind regards,
Michel
September 14, 2019 @ 5:26 pm
Are the actual dimensions really 8″ x 8″? Note the ISY is listed as 8″ x 6″ in the store, but the actual dimensions are closer to 4.75″ x 3.63″. I’m trying to confirm that actual dimensions of the Polisy.
Thanks,
Mike
September 15, 2019 @ 11:36 am
Hi Michael,
To be 100 accurate:
6.61811024
6.16929134
1.12598425
September 16, 2019 @ 6:21 am
I can work with those dimensions. Thanks for the precision. 🙂
September 21, 2019 @ 11:19 am
Is the release date of 10/17/19 still on target for the Polisy PRO?
I have not seen any updates or mention of the product since the pre=order
September 22, 2019 @ 12:51 pm
Hi Thomas, yes, so far so good.
October 8, 2019 @ 12:16 am
Hi, if I preorder a Polisy Pro this week, when I can expect to get one (they show backorder)?
October 8, 2019 @ 10:15 am
Hi Brian,
Thanks so very much for your order. We are still on track to start shipping on 10/17. This said, since there are way too many orders, not all will be shipped on the same date. I would suspect it would take between 20 to 30 days till all orders are fulfilled.
With kind regards,
Michel
October 11, 2019 @ 2:09 am
Can’t wait 🙂 is the insteon plug-in done / working?
October 11, 2019 @ 8:02 am
Hi Andrew, no. INSTEON still requires ISY. Polisy requires ISY.
With kind regards,
Michel
October 15, 2019 @ 4:20 am
Hi Michel,
Any chance of a rackmount kit or someway to mount this?
Thanks,
Craig
October 15, 2019 @ 11:26 am
Hi Craig,
Not yet but we’ll look into it once things get settled.
With kind regards,
Michel
October 15, 2019 @ 11:46 am
Hello all, just a quick update on our shipment status:
1. We have all hardware components ready
2. Firmware (Secure boot) and OS have been fully tested and quite stable. We have our own OS updater and package manager ready and online
3. We have Polyglot running beautifully and quite reliably. Migration has been completed and being tested
The only thing that has not yet been fully tested/completed is the Admin Interface to let you configure IP/WiFi/network settings through a browser (no no, NOT Java).
For those of you who are comfortable with SSH and ifconfig, we’d be delighted to include you in our Polisy Geek Batch which starts shipping by 10/21. If you wish to be included, please send an email to sales@universal-devices.com with the subject “Include Me In Polisy Geek Batch”.
For others, and with sincere apologies, we need just a little bit more time to make sure you are not left with a bad out of box experience. Although we have sized the remaining tasks in days – and just to be safe – we are delaying the ship date to 11/19.
Thanks so very much for your orders and your patience.
With kind regards,
Michel Kohanim
December 16, 2019 @ 1:50 pm
Will Polisy ship still on 12/17?
December 16, 2019 @ 7:43 pm
Hi Michael,
Very likely. Going through final testing. Regardless, no later than this Friday.
With kind regards,
Michel
January 27, 2020 @ 8:52 am
I read on another page that Polisy will work with Philips Hue. I have an ISY994i. What does the integration look like between the ISY994i, Polisy, and Philips Hue? Would I be able to go into one of my ISY994i programs & have it turn on a Philips Hue bulb and set it to a specific color or scene that I already have setup?
January 27, 2020 @ 9:03 am
Hi Kevin, yes it does. All you need is the Philips Hue Hub.
With kind regards,
Michel